Kiok: I don’t think that I’m completely undefinable, but no one thing can define me. I’m a culmination of many different traits.
How did you seek mentorship when starting out in this industry?
My career wouldn’t have blossomed the way it has without the strong leadership I’ve witnessed from my former managers and peers. When I initially delved into PR, I reached out to everyone in my network and asked if I could help them in any way. From there, it was important to ask the right questions, be observant, and always be quick on my feet. I preemptively prepared for any requests that my boss could request of me, learned how to pack a PR mailer more efficiently, and reorganized the product cabinets. For me, it was all about being proactive.
For those that are interested in pursuing a career in PR, what is the most important thing to keep in mind when representing your clients?
Whether you’re in-house at a brand or at an agency where you manage multiple clients, it’s crucial to listen to your client’s goals and stay on-brand on their behalf. For example, if a brand maintains a certain aesthetic, I’ll try to dress the part when I take meetings or help them host an event. Also, it’s essential to drive any conversation back to the brand so that it stays top-of-mind.
What would you say to those out there that want to follow in your footsteps and start a company?
My advice is to create a company because of an actual need or a void that you’ve identified in the market. I wouldn’t start a company haphazardly, since there will be many unforeseen challenges along the way. However, if you’re convinced that your company could solve a problem with the correct solution, then you’ll have the convictions to lead fearlessly and to also stand out amongst a sea of potential competitors. From there, build your team with people who are smarter than you, but are just as driven. I believe that you can only grow from honestly knowing your own strengths and weaknesses and allowing yourself to learn from others, too. Personally speaking, I hired a financial advisor who keeps our business in-check because I’m not naturally great with numbers.
Written By ASIAN AMERICAN GIRL CLUB - October 01 2019
Singer, songwriter, member of RCA Records’ girl group Citizen Queen.
Who inspired you to start singing?
Nina: My parents. I feel lucky to have felt comforted, loved, and supported through my journey in an industry that is not always so loving. I started singing and acting professionally when I was around seven years old. Rejection after rejection later, as everyone that auditions experiences, I couldn’t help but question if who I am, and what I looked like was the issue. I wondered if there was love for Asian American Girls, and if there was even a story of a multiracial girl in America to BE told in the first place. As time has gone on, I have learned that those not represented in media have to take the bull by the horns and MAKE space. The girls of Citizen Queen, my girl group, are doing just that. I’m proud to be the figure for Asian American and multiracial girls I never really had growing up. And I get to be that by doing what I love - singing.
Photo by Luke Fontana
There aren't many Asian Americans in mainstream music, who or what gave you the courage to pursue this industry?
I actually think Asian Americans are slowly starting to rise and become more known than before. Some of the biggest asian American artists dominate the charts: Bruno Mars is half filipino, so is Hailee Steinfeld, BLACKPINK is taking over, and Awkwafina is making space in the industry for herself quite successfully. These artists keep my head up. What I think is definitely missing is the story of the Asian American experience in mainstream music. An amazing example of a song like this is “I Can Only Write My Name”, by Will Jay. Composing stories like this is NECESSARY for the normalization of Asian American Artists into Mainstream Music. People need to hear our perspective. Until people are willing and excited to listen, we will continue to make space for ourselves. And for those of you reading this that feel hesitant to enter the music industry because it seems as though not many Asian Americans succeed in it:
It’s about the music. Tell your amazing story, and REGARDLESS of who you are or what you are, people will listen.
Your story needs to be heard. Be the first to say something or be something if no one has yet.
Don’t trip. We’re thriving. We are making space for ourselves, and even more for you.
Check out some inspiring words of motivation from Nina!
Written By ASIAN AMERICAN GIRL CLUB - September 17 2019
Comedian, actress and writer. Catch Sherry in Good Trouble on FreeForm!
"I think stand up comedy is such a scary thing- how did you conquer any fears that you may have had when starting out?”
Sherry: The nerves and fears don’t go away… it’s how you translate it on stage. I’ve learned to just breathe and have fun. A joke might not succeed, but instead of tensing up and sweating it - just chuckle and move on! The more I take myself less seriously, the more seriously people will take me! I’m just gonna pretend like that sentence made sense. At the end of the day, I get to make people laugh for a living. What’s scary about that?
How did you find your voice in comedy?
Honestly, I’m still finding it! I’ve only been doing stand-up for three-ish years, and there are certain things I’m not sure I’m ready to talk about. My joke topics are pretty mixed. I definitely say what’s on my mind, but sometimes I feel like I’m not opinionated enough or I’m not digging deep enough. I’m only human! It takes time to put 100% of yourself out there on stage. It’s a journey!
How do you stay inspired and come up with new material?
Consuming pop culture really helps. I throw in Marie Kondo references and all that good stuff. The struggle of writer’s block is often real, then I’ll suddenly get a wave of inspiration. I love metaphorical stuff, like comparing the burden of jury duty to being someone’s bridesmaid. I also talk about hypothetical stuff, like if strippers also did magic tricks. Of course, lots of material comes from just being a bisexual Asian American immigrant girl living in LA. It’s random AF, but let’s hope these funny juices keep flowing!
Check out what Sherry says about being being undefinable!
What inspired you to share your home recipe skincare products with a bigger audience?
When I was feeling meh about my skin, I wasn’t the same person, I lost the spark in my eyes in how I saw myself. I thought- Wow, if I was feeling dissatisfied and uncomfortable in my skin, there’s probably so many others that feel that exact same way. I had such an incredible experience falling in love with my skin after using natural ingredients and creating my own recipes, I just wanted to share it with others. I discovered myself and my skin in a whole new way, and I couldn’t help but want to share to make a difference with others too.
What was the biggest struggle you or Honey Belle overcame in the beginning stages of building your brand and business?
The biggest struggle is always the one I’m overcoming *now*, in the present. Each year, each month, each day of growth comes with new challenges. I’ve had to face new problems, new obstacles, and each time I conquer a certain set of obstacles, there are a new set of “evolved” obstacles. These challenges included hiring and training staff members, expanding the product line to retail stores, managing employees, creating new partnerships, etc. I find myself walking on a path that I’ve not crossed, and it’s scary, exciting, and enlivening all at the same time.
What are your self care rituals?
Aside from my skincare routine which consists of all Honey Belle products [ Yes, I actually do use all of my products religiously! ], self-care and mindful wellbeing are one of my favorite things to nurture on a daily basis. I practice focusing on my breath, and remaining calm and clear in the midst of discomfort and pain through yoga (on and off of my mat). I make it a point to *decide* beforehand how I want to feel about something, and if I’m frustrated or worried about something, I list 5 things I can let go of in that moment. And when I’m headed to bed, I list out 10 things I’m grateful for that day. Physical beauty and physical wellbeing is one thing, but together and combined with inner wellbeing, that’s where the magic is at.
Check out Iris' inspiring words on what makes her undefinable and her self care tips! For more from Iris, follow her at @irischerng.
Sara: I am uniquely me, always evolving in hopes of becoming the absolute best version of myself, without forgetting where I came from or those who have helped me along the way.
Seeing an Asian American woman as the senior fashion and beauty editor of Bustle makes us feel all kinds of inspiration. How did you build your career?
From the moment I picked up my first teen magazine, I knew I wanted to become a writer and create content for young women. I remember obsessing over issues of Cosmo Girl! and dreaming of one day becoming an Atoosa Rubenstein, the magazine's Editor-in-Chief. I loved how fun and honest she was and the fact that she got to play with makeup and clothes and give advice to teens for a living was basically the coolest thing ever to me. When I was in high school, I wrote her a letter asking how I could follow in her footsteps and she wrote me back! I took that as a sign that I should pursue journalism.
It was also no secret that there were not any women or girls who looked like me in the pages of the magazines that I read, the movies I watched, or even the music I listened to. I really wanted to pursue editorial not only because I loved writing and storytelling, but also because I wanted to create content for girls who looked just like me.
I majored in Communications and Professional Writing and Editing at UCSB and applied for as many writing internships as I could during my time in college. After graduation, I got my first real job as the Digital Editor at Tiger Beat Magazine. I had the opportunity to build their website and cover all of the latest teen stars like Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, and the Jonas Brothers. The job taught me so much about working in the editorial world, from coming up with story ideas to interviewing celebrities. From there, I worked at another media company, where I helped create content for various websites like AOL and MSN. Then, I took a leap of faith and decided to go freelance. I knew I wanted to build my beauty and fashion portfolio even more, and that's how I found Bustle. I've been the West Coast Fashion and Beauty Editor at Bustle for the last 5 years and it has been the most incredible and rewarding job of my career so far. Only recently did I realize that I was actually doing what I had always set out to do — to create content for every kind of young woman (including those who look just like me) and to represent the Asian American women community. It is an honor and privilege, and I am so grateful that I get to call it my job!
Can you walk us through your daily skincare routine? (We need all the tips!)
I usually work out in the morning, so I won’t wash my face until after to prevent over-cleansing and drying my skin out. After my workout, I’ll use a cleanser (right now I’m using Tatcha's Rice Polish), followed by a toner to balance my skin’s pH, a vitamin C serum to brighten, a light but hydrating moisturizer, and then sunscreen with SPF 50 PA+++. Throughout the day, I’ll use a mist to keep my face looking fresh and feeling hydrated. At the end of the day, I’ll double cleanse if I’m wearing makeup. I’ll use a toner and then 2 to 3x a week I’ll use a mask of some sort depending on my needs. I’ll usually use an exfoliating peel once a week to get rid of dead skin cells as well as a hydrating and repairing one for maintenance. I’ll follow up with a serum, usually one with hyaluronic acid to plump and hydrate and then once a week, a retinol to keep the wrinkles at bay. Then, I’ll lock in all the moisture with a moisturizer, a sleeping mask (for extra hydration) and a lip mask (because my lips are super dry.)
Tell us a little bit about your new podcast “Gloss Angeles.” We are so excited for this!
Gloss Angeles is a podcast that my beauty BFF and fellow Capricorn Kirbie Johnson and I started recently and we are so excited about it! Gloss Angeles gives our West Coast perspective on all things makeup, skincare, and wellness with a sprinkle of pop culture and celebrity (because we live in LA, after all). Through our podcast, we're hoping to pull back the curtain on beauty trends, treatments, and products in Hollywood, in order to help our listeners navigate the sometimes confusing, but wonderful world of beauty. Please give us a listen! :)
Krista: ME! My job, my ethnicity, my gender make up PARTS of me that I’m very proud of, in an individual way, but they don’t define or label me based on a group definition or stereotype. There is so much more beyond my job, ethnicity, and gender that make me who I am! There are many many many layers in a human being - every person in the world has a different story, and history - nobody is the same, and that’s what makes human nature so interesting and beautiful and unpredictable!
How do you handle rejection?
Rejection is a big part of my job as an actor and artist. Rejection isn’t easy. When I audition for a role and do not get the part, I usually am bummed. But then I remind myself the part is going to another hustling actor, and I certainly can’t be mad about that - we are all working hard, and there is room for everyone, especially to celebrate more Asian American actors!!
Being rejected socially is something that is harder to deal with, because at first it feels much more personal. For example, being excluded from a group or a party or conversation might not feel good. But I have learned over time that it is not worth the energy to worry about people who are exclusive. Especially when I have genuine, wonderful, and supportive friends and family (like Team AAGC!) that I would so much rather spend that energy and time on and with
If someone is choosing to be unconcerned or catty, then I probably don’t want to be around an insensitive person anyway. It’s so much better to focus on the love and matters that are important to you, than the inevitable negativity surrounding you. That's why I deeply value inclusiveness and kindness.
Being rejected has taught me confidence, to love myself instead of looking for someone else to, and most importantly, to treat OTHERS with love and compassion because I know how bad it feels to be on the rejected side. I do find coffee ice cream a great friend on the darker days, though (Haagen daz plz) =)
Dr. Ken (ABC)
Last Man Standing (FOX)
Favorite self care tips?
15 min walk outside right before the sun goes down, extra bonus with a dog!
Stretching and breathing
Prioritizing Family and Friends time
Taking the time to give thanks.
A single flower
Dancing to music
Check out what Krista has to say about what being undefinable means to her!
Asha: I wear many hats, I think the ability to not define any one particular role in life makes the journey that much more interesting.
You have such a fascinating story. Can you tell us a little bit about your journey to becoming an entrepreneur?
I was born in London to Indian parents, so my design palate — think, traditional eastern heirlooms and customs set against a modern, western backdrop — infinitely rich, too.
Despite loving art and fashion from an early age, I knew way better than to announce to my parents that that was going to be my lot in life! I followed an interest in science and trained as a pharmacist, so when I hear my pieces described as “harmonious” and “balanced”, I know that my left-brain, right-brain life path has made my work better for it.
Photo by Thu Tran, @thulegit
The process of launching Asha Patel Designs was part heart and part strategy, too. First, gifting pieces to friends and loved ones, then eventually, moving to an online presence. Today, I’m grateful that that process led to true brand love.
I aim to strike a balance behind what’s modern to the eye and what’s timeless in our souls: pieces featuring age-old symbols and materials, that happen to also layer beautifully (and powerfully) into modern life. I’m most proud when people integrate my work into their own spiritual and self-love practices — whether that be through yoga or simply reaching for them throughout their days as a way to center themselves — and share back to me that they’ve gotten better and better at listening to what’s inside because of it.
Photo by Thu Tran, @thulegit
What are your self care rituals?
Taking care of myself involves three important pillars - nutrition, sleep and exercise.
1) Much of my time, when I’m not crafting or designing jewelry, is spent preparing home cooked meals. Cooking is definitely a labor of love but I find it quite therapeutic.
2) I’ve always been one who enjoys going to sleep; couple that with being married to a sleep physician who reminds me of the adverse effects associated poor sleep hygiene.
3) I’m not a hard core exerciser but stay true to the mantra “slow and steady wins the race”. I aim for some form of cardio, 30 minutes daily. I also try to meditate everyday.
Written By ASIAN AMERICAN GIRL CLUB - August 13 2019
Producer, Writer, and TV Host on E! News.
What makes you undefinable?
Erin: My dna, my mixed cultures, my people, my dreams, and my drive make me undefinable.
Seeing a woman of mixed heritage on E! is so beyond inspiring to us. Can you explain to us a little bit about how you got your start?
Yikes. There’s no way to tell you just a LITTLE bit of how I got my start haha. If you want the FULL story you can listen to it on the “Career Stories” podcast, but I guess it all began with my schooling and experiences at Chapman University. I was in the Dodge College Television Broadcast Journalism program. While getting my degree I was working for the City of Orange’s local station as a “producer/host”. I put quotes because I was being paid by my work study and not a lot of people watched the program. I also was the gaming reporter for Chapman news which aired locally too (yes, video games- i created my own niche). I formed a reel off these school projects and moved to Singapore after graduating. I did a documentary in Singapore and discovered it’s the hub of English speaking television in that region. I saw an opportunity and just jumped in without looking back. I built my portfolio in SEA, eventually landing E! Asia. From E! Asia, E! Hollywood took notice.
What are your self care rituals?
Massages! Yoga! Exercise! Masks! Time alone with God. When I get a chance to do self-care I try to treat my body like the temple that it is. I’m constantly on the go and sometimes it’s hard to “treat yo self” but when I do, I go all out! I love The Now massage boutique or Burke Williams. Hot yoga always makes me feel like I get a good detox from the day, energy, stress, and it’s a good reset. And scriptures always remind me to love myself the way JC does- and that’s some REAL self care.
What would you tell your 14 year old self about setbacks and failure?
Setbacks and failures are part of the process. If it wasn’t for setbacks or failures then we would be unprepared to weather real storms. All of my trials and tribulations have built a resilience and perseverance that has allowed me to keep pressing forward. I know that my strength is made perfect in my weaknesses.
Here at #TEAMAAGC we believe in the power of being and staying true to yourself. How do you retain your sense of self and individuality in your career?
I stay true to me by staying grounded and connected to my reality. My reality is my family, my community, my faith. Without these things it could be so easy to change your identity and of course I’ve been tested and have felt the moments of straying. But as I’ve gotten older I realized that none of the fancy stuff or the industry standards matter! People want authenticity and relatability so why not just share the raw, weird, unabashed me? The fabric of my life is made from different cultures, experiences, and people, and my tribe reminds me who I truly am everyday. When my creator knitted me in my mama’s womb, He said this will be 1 of 1- therefore there’s no reason to try and be like someone else.
MILCK: I am undefinable because I am simply a reflection of my community, and my community is impossibly beautiful and limitless.
“I’ve always wanted to pursue a career in the arts but I’m scared of what people will think and of putting myself out there. How do you abandon your creative fear and do what you love freely?”
I believe that desires within us are seeds planted by the universe, which wants to harvest a full and gorgeous kaleidoscope of souls that beam their truth into the stratosphere. If we deny our desires, we are denying the universe of its potential design. If we lean into our designs, the kaleidoscope of life becomes brighter and more fully realized.
Watch the video below to see how Milck uses gratitude to keep her grounded!
Nadya: I am undefinable because I am still figuring out who I am myself… I’m constantly growing and exploring new things, so how could I possibly be put into a box/label! LET ME BE FREE!!!
What advice would you give your younger self?
Don’t cry over petty drama. I spent so much energy when I was in middle and high school feeling upset because I felt left out or felt hurt because I heard that someone said something mean behind my back. I cried over way too many crushes that I had, and I wish I could tell my younger self that there are so many important things to focus on and invest in. I also wish I spent more quality family time with my younger sisters and my mom when I was in high school — I worked so hard (playing so many sports, leading a ton of clubs, and starting a nonprofit) that I ignored my family around me…and now I miss them all the time!
Watch the video below for Nadya's personal self care tips and what the word "undefinable" means to her!